The
Chinese court is not competent to try the case?
The China's
chief should assist the legal profession in fulling its duty to make legal
cousel available.
-> Theo
bộ luật hình sự thì tội bao che, che giấu sẽ bị xử lý và truy cứu theo bộ luật
hình sự!
Pháp luật
là phải có chứng cứ và nguồn căn. Điều tra là việc phải làm khi nghi vấn có căn
cứ.
An action
is not given to one who is not injured. Snowden is not injured, We can think
over the main reason: Why did Edward do that? Did he exchange the secret
information to get money or something else…?
An action
is not given to one who is not injured. Because we can see the Government did
not have wrong-doings like: force Snowden corruption…
We can
think over the main reason: Why did Edward do that? Did he exchange the secret
information to get money or something else…?
Edward
Snowden, Illegal immigrants should have to be deported! LAW IS LAW!
Ignorance
of law excuses no one.
Edward
cannot dissappear because maybe he can be a tooled person
for China (for example)…And if having the Lawsuit, the court’s
opinion was that the case should be heard inter parties as soon as possible.If
he dissappears, the court took the view that the defendant’s plea was equivocal.
And finally, the Chinese court is not competent to try the case?
Obama
Vies with Snowden for Public Support on NSA Leaks
By Phil
Mattingly, Margaret Talev & Andrew Harris - Jun 18, 2013
President
Barack Obama and former national security contractor Edward Snowden are
mounting public relations campaigns over a classified U.S.
surveillance program leaked by Snowden, with Obama promising to declassify
details and Snowden seeking vindication of his motives.
Snowden
today pushed to rally support for his cause in a public online
question-and-answer session.
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protester holds a placard during a rally in support of Edward Snowden, the
former National Security Agency contractor, in Hong Kong , China .
Photographer: Luke Casey/Bloomberg
3:08
June 17
(Bloomberg) -- Edward Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor
who leaked classified documents about government surveillance programs, is
participating in an Internet question-and-answer session on the website of
U.K.’s Guardian newspaper. Snowden's identity on the chat couldn't be
independently verified. Peter Cook reports on Bloomberg Television's
"Market Makers." (Source: Bloomberg)
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June 17
(Bloomberg) -- NSA leaker Edward Snowden answered questions online. Peter Cook
reports on Bloomberg Television's "Money Moves." (Source: Bloomberg)
Obama, in
an interview with Charlie Rose taped yesterday and airing tonight, said the
intelligence community, acting on his direction, is in the process of determining
“how much of this we can declassify without further compromising the program.”
While
Obama is trying to assure Americans that the telephone and e-mail surveillance
programs targeting terrorists and overseen by a secret court aren’t an undue
invasion of average citizens’ privacy, he said people need a fuller picture
than what Snowden has provided.
“Frankly,
if people are making judgments just based on these slides that have been
leaked, they’re not getting the complete story,” the president said.
The
president has asked Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to
determine what additional information to make public about the programs,
according to an administration official who shared the information on condition
of anonymity. Obama plans to meet within days with a privacy and civil
liberties oversight board he designated as part of an outreach on privacy
protection in the digital age, the official said.
Snowden’s
Chat
Snowden
spent more than 90 minutes answering questions on the website of the UK newspaper,
The Guardian, with criticism for Obama’s policies, a rebuke of the policy
restrictions on domestic surveillance and jabs at the media and former Vice
President Dick Cheney.
Intentional
or not, it also may have served a legal purpose: the softening of a potential
jury pool, should Snowden be charged and extradited to the U.S. to stand
trial.
“He’s
going to argue he was a whistle blower and try to get out from the legal
technicalities of being found guilty,” said Jeffrey Cramer, a former federal
prosecutor now with international investigations firm Kroll Inc. “That’s an
argument to the jury to not send this man to jail, even though technically what
he did was against the law.”
Snowden,
a former Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Corp (BAH). contractor, is facing parallel
investigations by the Justice Department and the intelligence community for his
decision to disclose two wide-ranging classified surveillance programs.
Lawmakers have called for his prosecution and Attorney General Eric Holder has
said he would “hold accountable” the individual responsible for the leaks.
Public
Opinion
A USA
Today/Pew Research Center poll found that 54 percent of those surveyed said
Snowden should be prosecuted for disclosures to two newspapers that lifted the
veil on two National Security Agency surveillance programs, compared with 38
percent who said he shouldn’t face charges.
Snowden,
29, said yesterday that statements by public officials may be an effort to
deliberately sabotage his chances at a fair trial in the U.S.
“The U.S.
government, just as they did with other whistleblowers, immediately and
predictably destroyed any possibility of a fair trial at home, openly declaring
me guilty of treason and that the disclosure of secret, criminal, and even
unconstitutional acts is an unforgivable crime,” Snowden said, according to the
Guardian-sponsored online chat.
He also defended
and justified his actions, saying he didn’t release details on U.S. operations
or assets dealing with “legitimate targets” and that he has no plans to provide
information to the Chinese or other foreign governments.
Little
Impact
Snowden’s
effort to paint the U.S.
jury pool as tainted would likely have little impact on any extradition
proceedings or decisions in Hong Kong, where he traveled on May 20 in advance
of stories published based on his leaks, according to Jacques Semmelman, a
partner at Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle LLP in New York .
“It’s on
very weak grounds trying to argue that a U.S. jury cannot be fairly selected
for his case,” Semmelman, a former federal prosecutor, said in a telephone
interview. “That’s not his most compelling argument to avoid extradition.”
Instead,
Semmelman said, Snowden’s best defense from an extradition request under the
treaty signed between the U.S.
and Hong Kong would be for his case to be considered a political offense --
something that Hong Kong officials could cite
in a rejection of the request.
Process
Any
request will have to wait for charges to be filed -- something U.S. prosecutors are in the midst of assembling,
according to two U.S.
officials briefed on the matter. Though prosecutors have targeted a quick
process, there are hurdles to overcome, including the need to file all charges
before the extradition request. Prosecutors rarely can file new or amended
charges once an individual has been extradited, the people said.
The Obama
administration has confirmed the existence of a program compelling Verizon
Communications Inc (VZ). to provide the NSA with data on all its customers’
telephone use.
The
administration also has confirmed the existence of a separate program, called
Prism, that monitors the Internet activity of foreigners believed to be located
outside the U.S.
and plotting terrorist attacks.
Once
charges are filed, the U.S.
can ask Hong Kong to detain Snowden for as
many as 60 days before making a formal extradition request, according to a treaty
signed between the two governments.
Mustering
Support
In
advance of those charges, Snowden may be trying to “drum up” public support
because he realizes the U.S. will probably charge him with breaking the law and
seek to extradite him, said Eric Fiterman, a former FBI agent who founded
Washington-based cybersecurity company Spotkick.
“Defendants
rarely do themselves any good by speaking too much, but his is surgical,” said
Cramer, who runs Kroll’s Chicago
office. “It’s clearly meant to get out from under treason.”
Snowden
criticized Cheney and U.S.
lawmakers who have denounced the leaks. He called on Obama to “appeal for a
return to sanity” and said he would “advise he personally call for a special
committee to review these interception programs.”
“There
can be no faith in government if our highest offices are excused from scrutiny
-- they should be setting the example of transparency,” Snowden said.
Disclosures
Protested
The
disclosures, however, have drawn the ire of U.S. lawmakers and Obama administration
officials, even as they have raised questions about the programs they
uncovered.
Senator
Saxby Chambliss, the top Republican on the Senate’s Intelligence Committee,
said the former government contractor ought to “look an American jury in the
eye” and explain why he disclosed details of secret programs.
“If he’s
not a traitor, then he’s pretty darned close to it,” Chambliss, of Georgia , said
yesterday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” program. “We know now that because of his
disclosure the terrorists, the bad guys, around the world are taking some
different tactics and they know a little bit more about how we’re gathering
information on them.”
For the
moment, Snowden remains free, telling participants in the question and answer
session yesterday that he chose Hong Kong as
his destination in part because he believed the legal structure would allow him
to stay out of custody, at least for a time.
“It would
be foolish to volunteer yourself to it if you can do more good outside of
prison than in it,” Snowden said.
Discussions on Snowden debate...
About the silence of China about
Snowden issue, we have some thinkings as follow:
1/. No one is above the law.
2/. No penalty without law making it so.
3/. Laws too gentle are seldom obeyed like corruption in Viet
Nam (http://giaohaoganxa.blogspot.com/2013/06/tai-sao-nguoi-co-toi-bang-chung-ranh.html)
4/. The definition of law depends on how we look at its
purposes or functions.
http://giaohaoganxa.blogspot.com/2013/06/neu-snowden-vi-au-tranh-cho-quyen-rieng.html
http://giaohaoganxa.blogspot.com/2013/06/neu-snowden-vi-au-tranh-cho-quyen-rieng.html
(China?), The
accessory is delinquency. Silence is to accept? An action is not given to one
who is not injured. Because we can see the Government did not have wrong-doings
like: force Snowden corruption…
Chủ Wikileaks khuyên Snowden tị nạn ở Nga
Ông Julian Assange vừa khuyên Edward Snowden, người tiết lộ
chương trình theo dõi của chính phủ Mỹ, xin tị nạn ở Nga và cũng hối thúc Ấn Độ
cho anh này trú ẩn.
Edward Snowden,
Illegal immigrants should have to be deported! LAW IS LAW! Ignorance of law
excuses no one.
Theo bộ luật hình sự thì tội bao che, che giấu sẽ
bị xử lý và truy cứu theo bộ luật hình sự!
(China ?), The accessory is delinquency. An action is not given to
one who is not injured. Because we can see the Government did not have
wrong-doings like: force Snowden corruption… We can think over the main
reason: Why did Edward do that? Did he exchange the secret information to get
money or something else…?
Silence is to accept?
Trung Quốc giữ im lặng trước vụ 'kẻ lộ
bí mật'
Bắc Kinh hôm qua cho biết họ "không
có thông tin gì để nói" về các sự việc liên quan đến Edward Snowden, người
công bố chương trình nghe lén của chính phủ Mỹ và tố cáo Mỹ đang tấn công mạng
vào Trung Quốc.
Trung Quốc vừa trải qua kỳ nghỉ dài ngày trong ba ngày
qua, khi các diễn biến xảy ra quanh việc Snowden công bố thông tin gây chấn
động nước Mỹ và thế giới, rằng chính phủ Mỹ có chương trình theo dõi thông tin
của mọi hãng lớn về Internet toàn cầu.
Snowden hiện trú ngụ tại Hong
Kong , đặc khu hành chính thuộc Trung Quốc.
http://vnexpress.net/gl/the-gioi/2013/06/trung-quoc-giu-im-lang-truoc-vu-ke-lo-bi-mat/
-> Theo bộ luật hình sự thì tội bao che, che giấu sẽ
bị xử lý và truy cứu theo bộ luật hình sự!
An action is not given to one who is not injured. Snowden is not injured, We can think over the main reason: Why did Edward do that? Did he exchange the secret information to get money or something else…?
An action is not given to one who is not injured. Because we can see the Government did not have wrong-doings like: force Snowden corruption…
We can think over the main reason: Why did Edward do that? Did he exchange the secret information to get money or something else…?
Edward Snowden, Illegal immigrants should have to be
deported! LAW IS LAW!
Ignorance of law excuses no one.
Edward cannot dissappear because maybe he can be a tooled
person for China (for
example)…And if having the Lawsuit, the court’s opinion was that the case
should be heard inter parties as soon as possible.
If he dissappers, the court took the view that the defendant’s plea was equivocal. And finally, the Chinese court is not competent to try the case?
http://vnexpress.net/gl/the-gioi/2013/06/snowden-to-my-tan-cong-mang-trung-quoc/
If he dissappers, the court took the view that the defendant’s plea was equivocal. And finally, the Chinese court is not competent to try the case?
http://vnexpress.net/gl/the-gioi/2013/06/snowden-to-my-tan-cong-mang-trung-quoc/
The AP's Lawsuit was truck out because it disclosed no
cause of action.
Pháp luật là phải có chứng cứ xác thực (ghi âm...) và nguồn căn. Tại sao vụ kiện AP có thể bị xóa bỏ?
Vì nó không chỉ ra ra được nguyên nhân của vụ kiện.
Pháp luật là phải có chứng cứ xác thực (ghi âm...) và nguồn căn. Tại sao vụ kiện AP có thể bị xóa bỏ?
Vì nó không chỉ ra ra được nguyên nhân của vụ kiện.
Solutions' Recommendation for AP
Lawsuit.
The safety of the people is the supreme law.
Like reason makes like Law.
Let right be done, though the heavens fall.
1/. The Government has the Right to investigate
somethings or someone suspected and to guarantee the people's life. They have
the Right to govern if the AP has some equivocal denotations.
Chính phủ có quyền nghi ngờ và điều tra để bảo đảm mạng
sống của người dân.
2/. In some force majeure cases...
3/. Every Law has no atom of strength, as far as no
public opinion supports it.
-> Chừng nào chưa có sự ủng hộ của quần chúng thì chừng
đó Luật pháp vẫn chưa có hiệu lực.
We can show the ethics about the felonious terrorists
killing innocent people to the forum to get the reaction of people...
4/. The accessory is delinquency.
Vụ xâm phạm thông tin của AP: Nghị sĩ hai Đảng chỉ trích
nhà Trắng
Snowden bác bỏ việc làm gián điệp cho Trung Quốc
Edward Snowden, người hé lộ chương trình
theo dõi bí mật của chính phủ Mỹ, bác bỏ thông tin cho rằng anh ta là gián điệp
của Trung Quốc và gọi đây là "sự bôi nhọ đã được dự báo trước".
> Snowden tố Mỹ 'tấn công mạng Trung Quốc'
Cựu nhân viên CIA 29 tuổi hôm qua trả lời về những tin đồn
trên và một số câu hỏi khác trong một cuộc phỏng vấn độc quyền với Guardian.
Từ một địa điểm bí mật tại Hong Kong, Snowden đã lên án chương trình theo dõi
bí mật của chính phủ Mỹ và tuyên bố sẽ ở lại đây lâu nhất có thể.
Khi được hỏi rằng có phải anh ta đã cung cấp những tài liệu
mật cho chính phủ Trung Quốc để đổi lấy quyền tị nạn hay không, Snowden cho
hay: "Đây là một sự bôi nhọ mà tôi đã dự đoán được trước khi công khai mọi
chuyện, khi truyền thông Mỹ giật nảy mình trước bất cứ thứ gì liên quan đến
Hong Kong và Trung Quốc. Họ tính đánh lạc hướng dư luận khỏi hành vi sai trái của
chính phủ Mỹ".
Snowden cho hay anh "không có liên lạc gì" với
chính phủ Trung Quốc mà chỉ "làm việc với các phóng viên". Cựu nhà
thầu quốc phòng của Cơ quan An ninh Quốc gia (NSA) giải thích anh đến Hong Kong
vì đây là nơi có "khung văn hóa và pháp luật cho phép tôi làm việc mà
không bị giam giữ ngay lập tức".
Snowden cũng làm rõ rằng anh không có dự định quay lại Mỹ
và đối mặt với pháp lý. Anh "có thể làm nhiều điều tốt đẹp hơn ở bên ngoài
nhà tù". Snowden cho hay anh không tiết lộ bất kỳ hoạt động nào của Mỹ
chống lại "những mục tiêu quân sự hợp pháp", mà chỉ là các mục tiêu
"hạ tầng dân sự".
"Tất cả những gì tôi có thể nói bây giờ là chính phủ
Mỹ sẽ không thể chôn vùi chuyện này bằng cách giam giữ hay sát hại tôi. Sự thật
đang diễn ra và không thể bị ngăn cản", Snowden nói.
Trong khi đó, tại cuộc phỏng vấn với Fox News hôm
qua, Lon Snowden, bố của Edward Snowden, bày tỏ hy vọng con trai sẽ quay trở về
Mỹ và đối mặt với việc xét xử nếu cần thiết. Ông yêu cầu Edward ngừng việc rò
rỉ các thông tin mật.
"Chúng ta muốn con được an toàn, được hạnh phúc, nhưng
bố biết con có cá tính của riêng con và con sẽ làm những gì con cảm thấy cần
phải làm", ông nói. "Bố tin chắc con là một con người của kỷ luật.
Hãy cân nhắc những gì sẽ làm và không tiết lộ thêm thông tin nữa".
Các nghị sĩ Mỹ đã yêu cầu lập tức dẫn độ Snowden từ Hong
Kong, tuy nhiên chính quyền Obama chưa tuyên bố về quyết định đối với Snowden.
Vụ rò rỉ thông tin động trời của Snowden đã gây ra các phản
ứng trái chiều, khi một số cho rằng anh ta là kẻ phản bội, còn số khác lại ca
tụng là "người thổi còi tố giác".
Anh
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